Subject	You have opened up a can of worms. In the end you will
Posted by	SlicktopTT on March 17, 2009 at 1:20 PM
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In Reply To	AMS manifold flow graph... posted by blackomega on March 17, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Message	find that most people on tt.net would buy the MSP manifolds over the AMS regardless of flow claims fact or fiction. Not hard to improve upon something when you have a bench mark. All they had to do was take the MSP manifolds send them to china and say make them a little bit bigger.
Follow Ups	AMS manifold flow graph... - blackomega 12:45:18 03/17/09 Where did you find this graph? - B. Wong 12:47:31 03/17/09 Biased. You can't "be bias". (n/m) - BobbyT 12:51:51 03/17/09 Unless one is a tire. :) (n/m) - SactoTodd 12:58:19 03/17/09 You are correct - B. Wong 12:59:25 03/17/09 Middle Picture of the 3 on the left - blackomega 12:53:32 03/17/09 Shows test was done by Westport Auto, not AMS. (n/m) - jschrauwen 13:03:29 03/17/09 and who are they? - Ahmed (Chicago) 13:07:32 03/17/09 Wesport - High Performance/Race Shop (n/m) - jschrauwen 13:15:22 03/17/09 Says the AMS fanboy :) (n/m) - xAzraelx[NC] 13:07:39 03/17/09 He's more then a fan boy. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 15:59:00 03/17/09 I'm skeptical - B. Wong 13:14:42 03/17/09 indeed - aliaZ 13:30:42 03/17/09 Add honzrr to the list. - DVDBURN (MD) 17:50:54 03/17/09 He did now that you mentioned it. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 17:53:47 03/17/09 He doesnt like tt.net anymore. - John B. (NJ) 18:06:09 03/17/09 You have opened up a can of worms. In the end you will - SlicktopTT 13:20:31 03/17/09 I didn't know AMS and improve could go hand in hand. - xAzraelx[NC] 13:23:40 03/17/09 A little effort using search (k/w: AMS vs. MSP) will yield - Dave N 13:21:01 03/17/09 Yup, AMS FTL (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 13:23:01 03/17/09 I didn't realize there had been such a thorough comparison - blackomega 13:41:03 03/17/09 Original message... off... please and thanks (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 13:43:45 03/17/09 I bought the ams mani's and regret the purchase. I cannot - ZEVAN (Ca) 13:35:07 03/17/09 Sell them to a 300ZXclub clown, if they're not installed (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 13:43:23 03/17/09 That has crossed my mind. Still not sure what I will do. - ZEVAN (Ca) 13:51:49 03/17/09 you'll have a hard time selling in the next 30 days. - SuparexTT 13:57:08 03/17/09 you're kidding right? - SuparexTT 13:46:51 03/17/09 . - ZEVAN (Ca) 13:54:15 03/17/09 They are definitely lower quality than the MSP manis - na300zx (OH) 13:57:49 03/17/09 Affects. Did you ever make a materials post? (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 14:10:33 03/17/09 No. I sent two people who emailed me samples - na300zx (OH) 14:16:00 03/17/09 Grrr. Trying to get to it. One of these Fridays. . . (n/m) - Scotts94z32 17:50:51 03/17/09 No biggie - na300zx (OH) 19:07:17 03/17/09 What did you tell them you wanted done? - Scotts94z32 10:30:54 03/18/09 I have no clue what all of those mean, but he was - na300zx (OH) 11:40:06 03/18/09 Good idea to keep it in house - jschrauwen 19:25:25 03/17/09 You caught us. - na300zx (OH) 19:31:25 03/17/09 Besides, it doesn't matter how I get them tested. - na300zx (OH) 20:25:18 03/17/09 I always suspected... lol (n/m) - vorpalZ 08:05:10 03/18/09 You went ahead and installed AMS manis anyways? - jschrauwen 14:10:35 03/17/09 Holy shit - na300zx (OH) 14:13:19 03/17/09 I didn't pay attention to stock bolts. why not use those? (n/m) - SuparexTT 14:17:25 03/17/09 10+ years of heat stresses, that's why. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 14:22:13 03/17/09 The stock bolts & washers are too bulky to clear some of - Bernie (NoVA) 15:26:09 03/17/09 Wher or who did you buy them from? - jschrauwen 19:20:49 03/17/09 Perhaps a lack of a response is an answer in itself. - jschrauwen 21:57:28 03/17/09 I'll take them off your hands. - JustinSCZ32 10:13:11 03/18/09 I don't think you'll see ZEVAN respond - jschrauwen 11:05:30 03/18/09 Not sure what you are trying to imply but I don't live on - ZEVAN (Ca) 13:55:56 03/18/09 While you're in the process of doing the pics, - jschrauwen 02:23:15 03/19/09 welcome to 2006 (n/m) - LJZTT 14:07:09 03/17/09 Looks like the original test was done June 10, 2008 (n/m) - blackomega 14:11:56 03/17/09 seems as though this debate was sparked long before (n/m) - LJZTT 22:40:47 03/17/09 My 3 cents....... - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 18:34:24 03/17/09 Too bad - Insomniac (VA) 18:40:08 03/17/09 Received my manifolds today. Thanks Greg! - DVDBURN (MD) 18:49:46 03/17/09 Thanks Greg! Can't argue with your 3 cents :) (n/m) - Piranha(PHX) 19:36:47 03/17/09 Thanks for your input & thanks to Mike Smith for hard work (n/m) - induetime 20:25:59 03/17/09 I think I need a tissue. - jschrauwen 20:36:18 03/17/09 is it needed to clean up after Vuk or was it honzrr? (n/m) - Gizmo 20:52:29 03/17/09 I thought it was obvious. - jschrauwen 21:37:41 03/17/09 Do you not agree though? - B. Wong 20:54:55 03/17/09 I do agree that Mike Smith puts out a great product - jschrauwen 21:55:30 03/17/09 unfortunate demise? - aliaZ 22:08:53 03/17/09 Wow...you just showed you really know nothing. - Only1Z 23:07:58 03/17/09 VTF :) (n/m) - Piranha(PHX) 04:18:44 03/18/09 2nd (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 07:32:48 03/18/09 well said (n/m) - Ahmed (Chicago) 07:45:42 03/18/09 Huh? - rojoloco (San Diego) 23:30:25 03/17/09 are you still here, Tardo? (n/m) - ZEngineer 21:18:43 03/17/09 whats the matter? - aliaZ 21:23:28 03/17/09 There goes that ams's BITCH! (n/m) - Spongerider :) 22:35:50 03/17/09 Ok, I meet you and I am thinking, "This guy is a little - RAGTPZ 01:08:07 03/18/09 I'll keep VTDing you, I hope others do the same (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 07:35:09 03/18/09 luv you man. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 23:00:58 03/17/09 e-x-c-l-u-s-i-v-e - Oppaman Z 23:18:49 03/17/09 About vendor pricing. - rojoloco (San Diego) 23:24:55 03/17/09 Re: e-x-c-l-u-s-i-v-e - Vuk@Absolute Motorsports Inc. 09:20:05 03/18/09 You are so full of sh!t. - DVDBURN (MD) 10:53:12 03/18/09 "No one likes you here"?? - jschrauwen 11:16:14 03/18/09 You can't be that dumb to believe in what you just said. - DVDBURN (MD) 11:21:35 03/18/09 If he is a ams's bitch you're dealing with a sub par - Spongerider :) 11:34:37 03/18/09 Re: You can't be that dumb to believe in what you just said. - jschrauwen 11:44:56 03/18/09 *claimed sales (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 12:45:39 03/18/09 post them you liar - aliaZ 12:53:04 03/18/09 Re: Re: e-x-c-l-u-s-i-v-e - Spongerider :) 10:57:24 03/18/09 So tell us Vuk. What are your manifolds made of? (n/m) - na300zx (OH) 12:04:05 03/18/09 What was that line Jschrauwen? - na300zx (OH) 14:08:38 03/18/09 What up turd monger. Shouldn't you be VTDing some Z1 posts? - BigTDogg (MA) 15:43:27 03/18/09 Well put Oppaman Z - jschrauwen 09:35:55 03/18/09 These threads bring down the Z community as a whole. - canyoncarver 06:52:14 03/18/09 Says the NA guy... (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 07:33:25 03/18/09 so does copying products and selling them as your own (n/m) - Ahmed (Chicago) 07:46:25 03/18/09 Re: so does copying products and selling them as your own - canyoncarver 08:22:12 03/18/09 i'm glad you can at least admit you know they are copies (n/m) - Ahmed (Chicago) 08:24:49 03/18/09 Yeah, I wasn't dissing your car, just saying that the - BigTDogg (MA) 08:31:45 03/18/09 yep (n/m) - aliaZ 08:34:58 03/18/09 "Bad for Z32 product developement world"?? - jschrauwen 12:15:51 03/18/09 They are already released.... over a month ago - Oppaman Z 14:55:01 03/18/09 I won't use the "r" word, but you're pretty friggin stupid - BigTDogg (MA) 15:55:14 03/18/09 Apathy brings down the Z community - aliaZ 08:33:40 03/18/09 it's hilarious when you use that word to describe AMS - Ahmed (Chicago) 08:38:23 03/18/09 Re: it's hilarious when you use that word to describe AMS - jschrauwen 11:50:11 03/18/09 these threads are the only thing worth reading in TT general (n/m) - chicagozer 11:26:51 03/18/09
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